Mass Murderer Charles Manson's personal assassin set to be freed. ~ Evaluated as the "Perfect Christian."

Christians go on to tell us, "Tex" has been forgiven and will be seated on the right hand side of the father

are you just putting words into Christian's mouths? this is theologically incorrect, since it is Christ who is seated at the right hand of God. i've noticed you like to post your own misconceptions as if they were the factual teachings of Christianity. while it's not impossible there may be Christians who share your incorrect view, if you're going to quote this as from the mouth of Christians, then cite a source showing that.

i've noticed you like to post your own misconceptions as if they were the factual teachings of Christianity.

This is a quote from the article, not my conceptions or misconceptions. As far as citing a source, I seeded the article, is that not enough citation? Mateo, it is you who would put word in my mouth. Get your facts straight before you post a comment..

what article? you mean what you wrote? because the only source you provided is a generic link to www.aboundinglove.org and an uncited reference to MSN. i'm trying to get the facts straight, but you're being very evasive.

You and I have got this all wrong. First off, I mis-posted. I did not seed this article or write it, I just commented on it as you did. I only quoted from the authors article. Second off, my opinion has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with Tex Watson. This animal should never be let out of jail, never, ever. This animal should have been put to death for his crimes, with or with out forgiveness.

As far as people trowing around religious quotes, has nothing to do with my post. This man should not be breathing air at our expense. You can forgive him all you want, I think he should be dead and I'm sure the families of his victims feel the same way.

This is a quote from the article, not my conceptions or misconceptions. As far as citing a source, I seeded the article, is that not enough citation? Mateo, it is you who would put word in my mouth. Get your facts straight before you post a comment..

First off, I mis-posted. I did not seed this article or write it

hmm it sounds a lot like King Dave has multiple screennames...

I only have one Newsvine account.

so what do you think of Stephen-one shot-one kill speaking on your behalf? it's very telling how you get confrontational towards me for coming to a logical conclusion based on his claiming responsibility for your seed and yet you have nothing to say to him.

The story is from today at MSN.

link please? that should have been provided in the seed, btw.

It is sad but predictable Mateo your animosity towards non Christian atrocities, and your full support when these crimes are done in the name of Jesus.

what's predictable is how you always resort to ad hominem attacks whenever you get cornered. now why shouldn't I have animosity towards non-Christian atrocities (or any, for that matter, are you just using an incorrect word?), and what support am i giving? are you suggesting that the Manson family crimes were done in the name of Jesus?

I do hope someday you will reject your support of the Manson clan, and show some sympathy for the victims.

i have not supported the Manson family in any way, i think their death sentences should never have been overturned, and think it's ridiculous that they get parole hearings at all, not to mention the other benefits like conjugal visits which i already criticized. defending the principles of Christian soteriology is no more supporting the Manson clan than defending the penal system on principle, even if it gave them an undeserved parole.

so what do you think of Stephen-one shot-one kill speaking on your behalf? it's very telling how you get confrontational towards me for coming to a logical conclusion based on his claiming responsibility for your seed and yet you have nothing to say to him.

You, just make stuff up as you go along. I explained my mistake and I don't speak for anyone but my self.

I wish I could believe you, but it's plain for everyone to see, and if it's possible that i might be talking to somebody who's holding a conversation with himself, then i think it's safer just to ignore you both. goodbye.

Well King Dave this is my first participation in a discussion on an article authored by you. Can say that it was an interesting and amusing conversation. Thanks.

Mateo,

People on Newsvine can only have one account. If they find you have two you are banned, and all your subsequent accounts are also banned. What you are accusing King Dave of is not actually possible here (at least not for more than a few hours). If you click on people's names you can see how long they have been on Newsvine.

Manson follower 'Tex' Watson denied parole

http://news.yahoo.com/manson-follower-tex-watson-denied-parole-224357020.html

Yay! And I'll agree completely with King Dave here .. this dude should have been executed years ago ... how much do I have to write to be accused of being an alter ego of King Dave's? Then I'd be Queen Katrix.

how much do I have to write to be accused of being an alter ego of King Dave's?

I'm so confused...Will the real King Dave please stand up...lol...

do you think he cannot or should not ever be forgivin for his acts?

Exactly.

if there is a just God then he would offer forgiveness to everyone

If there is a god, he is a being of such weakness of character that he is undeserving of worship and deserves only disdain. One that would pardon this monster and condemn his victims is more comparable to the supposed evil satan. Or is god evil, and satan more evil?

I have a hard time with any religion that says a deity would forgive someone who did what Watson did and in turn throw someone like Ghandi into hell.

I think he cannot and should not be forgiven for his acts, absolutely. The very idea is laughable - grovel to some jealous deity's ego and you don't get punished for atrocities you committed? But don't grovel to its ego, and burn in hell despite being a good person? Bah.

so how do you determine which sins can never be forgiven, since it seems you've all taken it upon yourselves to be the judge of that? if divine mercy were dependent on the human capacity for forgiveness, then no one should be forgiven. and if somebody like Tex is truly penitent, what could they do to atone for their sins? obviously, he can't bring his victims back, and all the good deeds in a lifetime won't change that. also, why should somebody who's genuinely sorry for horrible transgressions they committed in their wayward youth be denied forgiveness over another person who's not sorry for their sins at all, just because his crimes were worse than theirs?

so how do you determine which sins can never be forgiven, since it seems you've all taken it upon yourselves to be the judge of that? if divine mercy were dependent on the human capacity for forgiveness, then no one should be forgiven.

So Mateo, are you ready to let Tex Watson come live with you. Just how great is your forgiveness.

so how do you determine which sins can never be forgiven, since it seems you've all taken it upon yourselves to be the judge of that

I don't believe in the concept of sin. I am Just making a general statement that apparently the Christian deity would be more willing to accept someone who tortured and killed people rather than someone who tried to help people. Eh, that is why I shouldn't even bother trying to figure out dogma, defies all logic.

So Mateo, are you ready to let Tex Watson come live with you

no, i already said he shouldn't be paroled. forgiveness of sins and a suspension of a criminal sentence are two entirely separate issues.

Just how great is your forgiveness.

admittedly not as great as God's. like i said, if divine mercy were decided by human standards, nobody would ever get to heaven. you've probably done something that somebody else would consider unforgivable.

I don't believe in the concept of sin.

sin is just a religious-specific term for wrongdoing. you may not believe in sin theologically or disagree about what things are sins, but the fact that you're judging Tex Watson shows you do believe in the practical concept. if you're saying this to mean you don't believe what he did was wrong, well, then there's nothing further for us to discuss.

I am Just making a general statement that apparently the Christian deity would be more willing to accept someone who tortured and killed people rather than someone who tried to help people.

nobody even brought up Gandhi (not Ghandi, btw) except for you. i can't dogmatically say if he (or anyone, for that matter) will go to heaven, but i would like to hope he is one of the sheep from the parable of the Sheep and the Goats (Matt 25:31-46). but either way, if somebody truly asks for forgiveness, then it shouldn't matter what they did beforehand, as the old adage goes, "forgive and forget." if you claim to forgive somebody but still hold that against them, then you haven't really forgiven them.

There is no divine forgiveness because there is no divine. It is a weak hearted attempt to ease his own conscious by appealing to a mere concept. The same god who would cast the best man into hell for not groveling before him would forgive this disgusting monster and that is all the proof I need to know that the christian god does not exist.

you may not believe in sin theologically or disagree about what things are sins, but the fact that you're judging Tex Watson shows you do believe in the practical concept

No, it means I believe in good and bad acts. Sin only affects having a god forgive you or send you to hell, so it doesn't exist. This is purely wrong, actrocious, and no god can change that, despite his cute pretense. His turning fundie doesn't change what he is

And "forgive and forget" doesn't count when someone commits atrocities like these. It's even more disgusting when people think this dude deserves a place in heaven when his tortured victims don't. I suppose you think Hitler and Stalin would deserve a place in heaven if they had repented? How about Ted Bundy?

If there were a god, he would have struck this @!$%# down, along with countless others throughout history.

ROTFLOL. Glad you liked it. If you wish, I could mispost on all your seeds.

Aww I missed something funny. :(

Yay.