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Richard Dawkins attacks 'alien rubbish' taught in Muslim faith schools | Mail Online

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Mr Dawkins, a former Oxford professor who found fame as an evolutionary biologist before becoming a vocal opponent of religion, is a longstanding critic of all faith schools.
But he has said that Islamic schools are worse than others, as their teaching is more likely to be influenced by a religious agenda.
Talking to the Times Educational Supplement, he described a trip he made to an 'utterly deplorable' Muslim school in Leicester.
According to the Daily Telegraph, he said: 'Every person I met believes if there is any disagreement between the Koran and science, then the Koran wins.
'It's just utterly deplorable. These are now British children who are having their minds stuffed with alien rubbish.'

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King Dave

Rejection of skepticism is the embrace of ignorance.

Science is questions that may never be answered,

religion is answers that may never be questioned.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 11:05 PM EDT
bluearcher

The Closing of the Muslim Mind

There are two fundamental ways to close the mind. One is to deny reason’s capability of knowing anything. The other is to dismiss reality as unknowable. Reason cannot know, or there is nothing to be known. Either approach suffices in making reality irrelevant. In Sunni Islam, elements of both were employed in the dominant Ash’arite theological school.

Islam thrives because of ignorance, not in spite of it.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 9:22 AM EDT
ndeepnow

look at the sign behind him. It probably is no god.

That's not much to bet your salvation on.

    #1.2 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
    Perception Dominates Reality

    look at the sign behind him. It probably is no god.

    You can't even transcribe a sign correctly, that's very telling of the amount of thought you put into things. The sign reads, "There's probably no god".

    That's not much to bet your salvation on.
    #1.2

    The Sign reads 'There's probably...' because Mr Dawkins is willing to admit what the religious can't possibly admit (or they'll lose a large portion of the ignorant tithe-give'ers), that what they believe is a guess. NO ONE KNOWS WITH PROOF.

    The fact that you 'bet your salvation' on just as little evidence goes to speak volumes about yourself, not Mr Dawkin's theories.

    • 1 vote
    #1.3 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
    Rank on Rank

    Mr Dawkins is willing to admit . . . what they believe is a guess. NO ONE KNOWS WITH PROOF.

    Atheists seem rather certain there is no GOD. Science cannot prove it either way. Yet, atheists believe that there is no GOD without proof. And the ones here on Newsvine, at any rate, are not willing to admit to either it being "a guess" on their part, or that "no one knows with proof" that GOD does not exist.

      #1.4 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
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      Grisham

      Get em' young and keep em' stupid. Easier to control that way.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#2 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 5:04 AM EDT
      ndeepnow

      Isn't that why he made a kids book????????? LOL ..

        #2.1 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:16 PM EDT
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        Rank on Rank

        But [Mr Dawkins] has said that Islamic schools are worse than others, as their teaching is more likely to be influenced by a religious agenda.

        "Islamic schools having or being influenced by a religious agenda? Really, ya think?

        That's scandalous, lol.

          Reply#3 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 10:08 PM EDT
          King Dave

          Yes, this is hard for those who wage Jihad on science to understand. But let us see if I can sort this out. In saying "religious agenda" Dawkins really means "nonsense." Now let us put it into context:

          But [Mr Dawkins] has said that Islamic schools are worse than others, as their teaching is more likely to be influenced by nonsense.

          • 1 vote
          #3.1 - Sun Oct 9, 2011 10:21 PM EDT
          Rank on Rank

          Then Dawkins should just say "nonsense". Why sugar coat it?

            #3.2 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:15 PM EDT
            King Dave

            Why sugar coat it?

            Politically correctness? He is not a word-smith like Christopher Hitchens.

            atheists believe that there is no GOD without proof. And the ones here on Newsvine, at any rate, are not willing to admit to either it being "a guess" on their part, or that "no one knows with proof" that GOD does not exist.

            I can not prove a God exists. I don't know...or care. But I am 100% sure you and everyone else does not know either..

            • 1 vote
            #3.3 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:37 PM EDT
            Rank on Rank

            But I am 100% sure you and everyone else does not know either..

            And of course, you have never been wrong. Especially when you have been 100 percent sure.

              #3.4 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:02 PM EDT
              King Dave

              Well, what if there is a God and SHE says, "King Dave, you are in, because you were good. Those who believed the Bible, Quran and would believe and do anything it said for the reward are going straight down. Go up King Dave, the women have been waiting for you."

              "NEXT.. Rank on Rank"

              Oh No!

              • 1 vote
              #3.5 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:42 PM EDT
              Dr Fell

              "hello rank, back again" rubs head.

              if you are a bill hicks fan you will get that.

                #3.6 - Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:34 AM EDT
                Rank on Rank

                "NEXT.. Rank on Rank" "Oh No!"

                Real Cute.

                  #3.7 - Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:49 AM EDT
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